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Post by FadedOasis on Aug 31, 2009 21:35:47 GMT -5
You guys should probably stop. Latest update added this:  And no, this didn't happen to me. |
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Post by scrambles on Aug 31, 2009 22:12:51 GMT -5
lollollol
I got mah hat fair and square, I always felt dirty using that program.
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Post by carbad on Aug 31, 2009 22:49:23 GMT -5
I lol'd browsing drunken f00l's forums, it seems no one understands for certain how this functions or if it even affects idling at all. Theories range from it being a sort of flag that's added to your inventory by the drop system that TF2 knows to delete quickly but the idler doesn't or it's just valve trolling their player base. where did you get that image, and did the source expound on the circumstances? i haven't seen that screen cap on sourceOP and they haven't mentioned anything about it :/ i'd check steam forums to see if they have more examples/info but as usual all the useful bits have been drowned in an epic flame war between the "VALVE HAS GONE TOO FAR" camp and the "IDLERS MUST BE PUNISHED BECAUSE YOU SHOULD EARN YOUR DICE ROLLS" brigade. edort: that image is claimed to be a shoop by steam forum noobs, but they are steam forum noobs so that might not mean anything more edort: nerfnow.com/comic/173/ |
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Post by .: sora on Aug 31, 2009 23:52:31 GMT -5
I lol'd... it's just valve trolling their player base. qft |
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Post by phevnil on Sept 1, 2009 15:41:57 GMT -5
I think it is actually aimed at a tf2 item unlocker which can be downloaded on some torrent sites that will give you any item you want. Apparently idlers aren't punished (yet). And you are forced to wear a "medal of shame" or something if your account is given the minor warning (major warning is either a game privilege removal or a VAC ban, I don't know).
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Post by carbad on Sept 1, 2009 16:10:36 GMT -5
so far there have been no report of anyone losing items as a result of using the idler, valve has said nothing (in the past they made blog posts when punishing people who cheated to get items), and the only way anyone has seen that screen faded posted has been to replace an item in their inventory with one of the flags to see what happened. Seems to be either for the lulz or for something unrelated to idling.
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Post by FadedOasis on Sept 1, 2009 16:15:01 GMT -5
They just added it to the game last night. It's very possible they haven't written the blog post yet.  |
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Post by .: sora on Sept 1, 2009 16:17:06 GMT -5
Screenshot seems legit; those strings were indeed added to the gcfs in the last update. Whether or not it is (or will be) related to idling is unclear, but I think Valve just wanted to grief the community a bit.
As far as the major warning, it isn't a VAC ban from what I can tell, but you do lose all 100% of your items:
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Post by carbad on Sept 1, 2009 16:31:50 GMT -5
it can't logically be a VAC ban because the idler isn't connected to VAC servers anyway, and even then you've got to be wall hacking and silly things like that to get a proper VAC ban. They'd probably only hand out the minor infraction for a first time idling offense (that sounds hilarious btw) which just removes the offending items rather than the whole lot of them. And that's assuming this is targeted at idlers at all, which the evidence seems to be leaning away from.
tl;dr version: nice trolling, valve
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Post by .: sora on Sept 1, 2009 16:37:09 GMT -5
I'd laugh if it did target idling. A bad solution to a bad system somehow seems fitting. :3
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Post by phevnil on Sept 1, 2009 16:39:35 GMT -5
"...flagged for circumventing the item distribution system."
Idleing isn't circumventing the system so acording to this quote you won't be punished for it. I don't know why I care though, I haven't idled or anything else as of yet.
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Post by FadedOasis on Sept 1, 2009 17:18:16 GMT -5
Receiving items while not having TF2 open *is* circumventing the system, phev.
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Post by carbad on Sept 1, 2009 17:51:38 GMT -5
nothing wrong with running custom servers  |
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Post by phevnil on Sept 1, 2009 18:29:22 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about idle servers, not the program. The idle program is circumventing, not much doubt about that (but I still don't think they will punish that much for using it).
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Post by carbad on Sept 1, 2009 18:49:13 GMT -5
it's not really circumventing, you aren't "getting around" anything in reality. you're just maintaining a connection to steam cloud to get more dice rolls. such a connection isn't any different than the sort maintained by someone connected to a "legit" server, and connecting via the idler or even just idling on an achievement_idle server doesn't give you a better chance at getting items, it just gives you more dice rolls.
in before someone telling me that I should "earn" my dice rolls like a civilized person
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Post by Jeziah on Sept 1, 2009 19:06:43 GMT -5
There's absolutely nothing wrong with idling. It's just that getting an item while in-game is infinitely more satisfying. In fact, Robin Walker himself is indifferent towards it (fig.1). So don't feel bad for doing it or try to justify it, but don't expect other people to agree with you that it's worth it. And don't expect to be reprimanded for it by Valve, either. Figure 1: forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80&page=3&order=desc |
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Post by brianblack on Sept 8, 2009 19:35:28 GMT -5
in retrospect: fnar fnar! I'd change that last one to EXPECT to be reprimanded for it by Valve. But that's just a dick move. Seriously.
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