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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 13, 2011 18:59:45 GMT -5
Giant Bomb just posted a Quick Look of Portal 2. I'm not watching it, just posting a link. www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-road-show-portal-2/17-4010/I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it. |
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 14, 2011 19:18:43 GMT -5
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Post by elacordeonachi on Apr 14, 2011 21:36:36 GMT -5
13 hours from now...that's like...10 am Central time? Oh dear...I'm supposed to be cleaning my house tomorrow because in laws are coming here for early Easter stuff...
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 14, 2011 22:06:35 GMT -5
It might also have something to do with the potatoes you can get on your profile via the ARG games. I'm half expecting "you need X potatoes to play early" or something, but I really hope it's either a low number like five. Or zero, that'd be awesome too. |
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 14, 2011 22:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by elacordeonachi on Apr 15, 2011 10:00:35 GMT -5
(said in a deeply sonorous voice) T -1 hour and counting
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 15, 2011 13:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by Jeziah on Apr 19, 2011 6:46:13 GMT -5
man I love that picture xD so who else stayed up to play as soon as it was released?
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Post by elacordeonachi on Apr 20, 2011 1:56:14 GMT -5
I stayed up til dawn playing it, still didn't finish. But that was rectified after a little nap. Fun fun fun!
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Post by pneuma08 on Apr 22, 2011 10:57:40 GMT -5
Just finished singleplayer yesterday. SO GOOD.
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Post by strata on Apr 27, 2011 14:51:31 GMT -5
I love that no spoilers have been posted in the actual thread so far, haha.
Lunacy.
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 29, 2011 1:06:58 GMT -5
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Post by FadedOasis on Apr 30, 2011 3:41:14 GMT -5
About to blow your mind here, and maybe make you cry a little. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjvVlEr3HpESpoilers and speculation ahead: [ GLaDOS didn't delete Caroline, she just spoke and acted like she did so Chell wouldn't feel so bad. It wasn't easier at all to release her, it would have been much easier at that point to kill her while she was asleep. Instead, she wrote an opera and taught it to the turrets (some of them were already practicing opera, as seen in a Rattman den). The opera was in a language that Chell can't understand (Italian) so that Caroline could say goodbye to Chell without Chell wanting to come back. Why would Chell come back, and why was saying goodbye so important?
Link 1, The opera, with lyrics and translation
Dear, beautiful.
My dear beautiful child, Chell.
That's too bad, that's too bad.
Well, my dear, goodbye.
My baby, dear,
why don't you stay far, so far from science.
Baby, baby, my child.
Ah, my beautiful,
Ah, my dear,
My dear,
My child,
My dear...
Caroline was Chell's mother. Caroline brought in Chell for Bring Your Daughter to Work Day and helped with her potato battery (Link 2). At this point, Chell was put into a hibernation chamber, Caroline's mind was put into GLaDOS (perhaps forcefully, since Cave Johnson was sure she'd object), and the memories of being Caroline were tucked away. When GLaDOS finally remembers that Chell is her daughter, she starts doing everything in her power to save her. The only reason GLaDOS would have to pull you back from the moon and not let you die in space was that GLaDOS still loves Chell.
As one final gift to her daughter, Caroline sets Chell free, writes her an opera, and scrounges up Chell's companion cube and tosses it up there to her. ] Valve outdid themselves this time. |
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Post by docsfox on May 1, 2011 3:50:26 GMT -5
You just blew. my. mind. faded
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Post by pneuma08 on May 1, 2011 9:58:28 GMT -5
Faded, did you just hide spoilers in a the spoiler thread?
In any event, that makes a ton of sense. I really need to spend some more time with this game, now that I have some free time.
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Post by pneuma08 on May 1, 2011 16:15:56 GMT -5
Re: Chell's potato:
The posterboard says it includes, "special ingredient from dad's work". So this means that Chell's father was working for Aperture Science. (NB that this doesn't say anything about Chell's mother...)
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Post by xadera on May 2, 2011 2:37:06 GMT -5
Hmm... The now I'm completely confused about the timeline. Why would Chell have been put into a hibernation chamber on take your daughter to work day? It would seem like GLaDOS killed everyone on that same day, because the projects were still all out there, and I doubt they would have left the projects sitting there for more than a month if things were running normally, especially since Chell looked to be much older than the take your daughter to work day would have suggested in Portal 1 (or she's just got the mind of a child). I mean, if the Rattman put her to the top of the testing list within a year of GLaDOS taking over, would it have really taken her several years to come out? (Then again, maybe they just did one at a time and the person before her lasted a while)
So, would that suggest that her father and maybe a bunch of other people tried to save themselves by going into hibernation? Or did GLaDOS just kill all the lead scientists and forced everybody else into hibernation?
And considering how long it would have probably taken Caroline to be integrated into GLaDOS, it doesn't seem likely that she would be Chell's mother. I mean, Caroline was, what, maybe 16-25 years old in the beginning of Aperture back in the 40's? And even by the Aperture dates on the experiments, 1988 was the most recent date and the idea of putting a person into machine was just being developed, at which point Caroline would have to have been ~60+ years old. If Chell was taken to the "bring your daughter to work day" as a child (again, child-like mind would counter this), suggesting age <16, Caroline would have been in her 50's to have had her, at the minimum, which seems highly unlikely.
After thinking for a bit, the Rattman would have fit well (obsessing over his daughter with murals, trying his damnedest to make her survive), if it weren't for the comic (speaking of the comic, isn't 1/10 of a picosecond longer than 1/16?). And the comic would have suggested that the take your daughter to work day was brought up by GLaDOS, as she also suggests the "take your cat to work day", though that's not necessarily true. Also the comic foreshadows sooo much upon re-reading it.
I think the biggest question is: who/what is that fat turret? It seems to be behind the whole song, as seen in test chamber 13, already teaching the other turrets the song before GLaDOS even intended to let Chell leave. And it even made appearances elsewhere in the game, never like a normal turret, such as the time it's sitting in a transport just staring in your direction as you enter the room before it leaves, like it was watching Chell. Did GLaDOS really create the turrets herself; or was it a design from before her creation that she just continued to use? It's possible that the turrets were given another person's personality, especially when you see the defunct turrets with a completely different personality. Maybe Chell's mother/father was imprinted in the fat turret?
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Post by pneuma08 on May 2, 2011 10:39:49 GMT -5
Yes, I think xadera's right. The timeline doesn't match up with the Caroline theory. The TYDTWD thing was in the upper levels of the facility as well, which is into at least the post-Cave Johnson era.
TYDTWD is pretty sinister, too. Cave seemed sympathetic to his workforce in the 80's, and although we don't hear much of Caroline at all it seems unlikely that she would be so cold, given what little we do know of her.
Furthermore, Chell must have been a test subject for some time before the incident as Rattman was able to pull up a file on her (which means they have data). This could fit in the timeline, if Chell was brought in during the 90's and the incident happened a decade later, that could fit. Still, Caroline would be a bit old to have a daughter. Granddaughter is possible. (Or clone, perhaps; GLaDOS implies that cloning technology exists on p.22 of the comic.)
Even then, though, it would seem very odd for the CEO or what have you to put their own family into the test chambers. There's got to be more to this story.
The comic brings up a lot of questions, though. If Chell was put at the top of the list when GLaDOS killed all the scientists, why did it take so long for her to become a test subject? Did she test with the scientists first, one by one?
(Also: 1/10 of a picosecond is longer than 1/16, and that's the joke - they're making progress since GLaDOS takes ever so slightly longer to try and kill them.)
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Post by xadera on May 2, 2011 18:05:25 GMT -5
Oh, my bad, I read it wrong. When it said "last time it was 1/10 of a picosecond", I thought that implied that this time had been 1/16, which wouldn't have been "progress". But yeah, I see now that they meant it normally took 1/16 but in the most recent boot up it was 1/10.
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Post by FadedOasis on May 3, 2011 1:33:59 GMT -5
Erik Wolpaw got sick of the cake jokes two and a half years ago.
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Post by FadedOasis on May 12, 2011 15:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by FadedOasis on May 25, 2011 15:02:38 GMT -5
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